Gun Review: Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 WIN. WebRuger M77-GS 308 Gunsite Scout Rifle with Threaded Barrel. 1.5 MOA at 300 yards is around 4.5 inches. An entry-level tactical bolt rifle at a decent price point, DBM, and receiver rail. Blindfolded, I could still pick out the difference between the 6.5 and the .308 based purely off heft. Web1) Vortex Viper HST 6-24x50mm Rifle Scope. I get the same accuracy with either of my Armalite AR10s. Jim is the originator of the American Redoubt movement and a frequent talk show and podcast guest. , My .308 Ruger Precision Rifle w/Vortex PST optics shoots 2.5 MOA with168 Berger VLD. of it. From their Black Hills Gold (hunting ammo) I had their 18-gr Barnes TSX, 168-gr Sierra TMK and their 175 grain Sierra TMK loads. Tyler Kee is a small town kid trying to make it in the big city of Austin, Texas. I see them in classes all the time, and they blind instructors and students alike during night shoots. Still, the set-up was fairly good although I really needed a bipod on the RPR and I needed to go prone, to get the very best accuracy out of this rifle. I spend far too much time in my local gun shop, checking out what is new and exciting, and what is used and priced right. 100 yard 3 group @ .625, 200 yard 5 group @ 1.3 and 300 yard 10 group (in 56 seconds) @ 2.8. Is there anything inherent with .308 that makes it more difficult to lay down tight groups? Add to Compare. In the 29 barrel of the M96, the bullet might be 50 fps faster. David Tubb, a shootist who is as inhumanly accurate as Jerry Miculek is fast, sells a fire-lapping kit as do others. Not all rifles within this range have aluminum bolt shrouds. This rifle can be competitive with $3K-$7K rifles with a custom barrel & more rigid handguard for less than $1K more. The barrel wear should not be as much of concern within 500 yard ranges as you only need 1.5 MOA, or so, to be accurate enough. To keep things proportional, Ruger elected to go with a shorter rail from Samson. The rifle was very solid (save the safety), smooth and very comfortable to shoot ergonomically even with the too low rings. That guy did more for barrel length arguments than anyone ever. Box 303 In WW II they were 03 Sprinfields and Garands. Still working at longer distances of 350, 550 and 750 yards. The gun that Ruger made is very close to the guns I saw on the line at this years Bushnell Brawl. Accuracy isnt all its cracked up to be. c/o P.O. Just about every rifle I know of that guarantees 1/2 moa 5 shots at 100 yards have barrels longer that a measly 20 for example; Sako TRG 42, Remington 40X, any of Don Fraley builds (Advanced Weapons Technology) etc. The best group I got out of the RPR in .308 was a .845 MOA group from some 178 gr. I will be interested to see what results are obtained with decent barrels. Apparently, today this makes me guilty of several micro-aggressions which cause various feminists to erupt in paroxysms of mortal cranial flatulence, but I wont delve into the rathole of intellectual onanism surrounding trans vs. cis women just now. It now reaches more than 320,000 unique visitors weekly. There is no way to break in or lap such a thing. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Thats only $0.10/day for some of the finest Survival/Prepping content around! Before anyone complains this isnt a hunting rifle I want to set the record straight Every rifle in the collection has to earn its keep the first year by dropping an elk or two. Apparently, that was back when men still made noises of large hardened steel bearings bouncing off each other whilst they walked to the firing line. This rifle is a great, economical, and very accurate tool. Ms. Weiss appears to me to have been born a girl (if Ms. KJW would argue with this, I will stand corrected), so I think we can exclude the possibility that shes a trans female who was originally endowed with the upper body strength of a male. The .308 comes up quicker and allows you to move and work off barriers and obstacles much more easily. Not sure what the tells you but getting sighted in was 2 shots and I was in business. I get frustrated with the every rifle must be short and light and look as much like an AR as possible crowd. Fired 15 or 20 at 1000 yds. Barrels can be easily replaced by a competent gunsmith using AR-style wrenches and headspace gauges. I have an RPR Gen 3. The barrel is 110 twist which I found shoots consistent groups with Fed 168 grain Open Tip Match ammo which performed well as did the Fed 175 grain Gold Match. They fixed it, told me what parts they replaced, but wouldnt take the time to tell me what the problem was, even when I called service dept. At 1000 yds. All shooting was done over a rolled-up sleeping bag, over the bed of my covered pick-up not an ideal set-up, but I didnt want to chance my windshield getting broken from the muzzle blast. But it can sure work as one, even though it is about 10 pounds unloaded without a scope it could be carried afield for hunting. and 900 it took me 15 rounds to get 2 on paper (barely) and that is a 6 ft. target! Alternatively, I spend quite a few days in the fall, winter, and early spring in and out of a truck or blind and on foot in search of whitetail, axis, and pigs. Now that Ruger has this rifle I see it as an ideal platform for a Scout. Its a good thing Bumblebees dont know they cant fly. Item Number: 6803. I believe their opinions are formed largely by following the current trend versus first-hand experience. .75 groups at 200 yards on a regular basis. I havent shot this Ruger, but I do own a 20 DPMS AR-10 its definitely not a 1MOA rifle. I chalk this performance gap up to two distinct weaknesses. WebModel Number: 18028 Caliber: 308 Win StockFolding, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height FinishType III Black Hard-Coat Anodized Barrel Length20" BarrelCold Hammer Im already saving for the rifle, suppressor, and that silly 200 dollar tax. Because the Swede uses its long barrel, and slow powders at much lower pressures the barrels, the brass lasts forever. A .30-06 in a 1903 Springfield recoils more than a .308, it has a steel buttplate, and thats still a what recoil? for this old man and many men much older than I. Backing way up to the start of this whole process, we have the issue of how the barrels were treated on break-in. Features: In-line recoil path manages recoil directly from the rear of For a serious shooter, barrels tend to be more accurate after a thousand rounds. I buy them used for $450-$550 Canadian. Ruger Precision .308 Rifle, Review and range test by Pat Cascio Only mod for the new barrel was a custom cut of the barrel down to 21 3/4 from 22 to achieve the best barrel harmonics. ? Not all sniping is done at 1,000-yards, some is done as close as 100-yards, and even the lowly .22 LR rifle, can accomplish the task of being a sniper rifle, with just a 4X scope on it think about it. My .308 RPR turned in a .443 with Federal Gold 168 gr. Is this an ideal sniper rifle? It is now and always has been the man behind the trigger that makes them perform in extraordinary ways. Folded Length: 31.60". Had to go buy a large expensive gun case to return to ruger couldnt fold stock to get it back in factory box. Medium-contour (.75" at the muzzle) barrel features a Ruger Precision Rifle Hybrid Muzzle Brake to effectively reduce recoil while minimizing noise and blast to the sides of the shooter. They sent it back with a 50 yard test target (useless) and called it good. That gun comes from the factory with a threaded muzzle which will save you some money. 800 yds. With that kind of accuracy, that is not that much money. My volunteer shooter was not allowed to make any adjustments after I got the stock and scope adjusted for my shooting position. Check out their 1000 yrd. In my mind, the perceived lack of accuracy is offset by just about every other feature of the gun. WebRuger American .308 Winchester 22" Black Vortex Crossfire 3-9x40. I havent read prose like that since Ruark, and I miss it greatly. Width3.30". But an F-class Savage doesnt look as tacticool, so it cant be as good. The truth is that the 6.5 stood up to that better. Its a 2+ MOA rifle. The results of my testing at the 100-yard line are below. For most game and most hunters the performance of either round is just fine. Item Number: 22662. Youll see the old school vindicated. I believe the Ruger Precision Rifle is capable of even better accuracy than I achieved. , Have the RPR in 6.5 Creedmoormost 3-shot groups have been all shots cutting one anothermuzzle blast and noise are brutal because of the muzzle brake i wear ear plugs and muffs. But that just is not gonna happen, in my old age. We greatly appreciate your support to help keep this blog up and running! I suppose they served their purpose in hand to hand encounters). I forgot to say that I used 7.62 ammo. Send it my way Tom. 06s are out now. THe Ruger Precision Rifle, Purpose Built to Distance Itself from the Typical Long-Range Rifle. Happy Hunting. (5) Ruger AR-556 16.1" Black w/Adjustable B5 Bravo Stock 223 Remington/5.56 NATO AR15 Semi Auto Rifle. WebSavage Model 10 BA Stealth 308 Win Bolt Action Rifle with Adjustable Stock (Left Handed Model) $1,207.00 $959.88. Would be like a Corvette vs. a riced out Honda Civic. I wont doubt that, and Im sure their (insert hunting rifle here) is a fine rifle. Keep in mind that I have attended a precision rifle match once in my life. I would love to have that rifle. I always preferred iron sights until I had to accept the fact that I was in need of readers. So, back to what constitutes a sniper or counter-sniper rifle. Were in the middle of trying to fight a New-Zealand style ban right now. I am not a comp shooter just a guy learning how to shoot But everyone at the range was impressed I was impressed thats the best I have ever shot. It is a shooter! If I can persuade someone to make an extended rail (please, Ruger?) Given that, its just bullet weight, powder charge and COL to tune a load for max accuracy. There just might another article in me on that, and several other gun related topics. I dont do much reloading these days, because I simply dont have the time. Pretty good for a girl who stands not quite 510 and weighs in at 120 lb. I cant wait to get my hands on this rifle. Neither is it brush rifle or a truck gun. Its kind of Rugers thing. Its like buying a safari rifle and faulting it because it has too much recoil to shoot prairie dogs all day. After 84 years, the throat on my M38 worn, yet still shoots good. Makes me consider competition. But the M4 crowd is fond of stuff like that. POOR service in anyones opinion. 3 shot touching at 75 yards, rounds made with IMR 3031 did not do as well, I plan to test more rounds made with 4064, Either I have an exceptional barrel or You didnt find what it likes. More from The Truth About Guns: Hornady ELD-X, 2016 TTAG Readers Choice Best New Ammunition: Hornady ELD-X. I was also dealing with every Tom, Dick, and Harry that was sighting in his muzzle loader that wanted to chat about the rifle or look over my shoulder when I was shooting it. Lapping would help, but it would shorten the life of the barrel. From Black Hills, I had their .308 Winchester 168-gr Match Hollow Point load, and their 175 grain Match Hollow point. The buttstock was really the only thing that held the gun back from being what it theoretically could have been. Viewed together, the .308 looks like the 6.5s littler brother. The RPR is not a tactical carbine. Both have proven to be excellent sniper rifles and both have taken down their targets with 1 shot. In any event, well all have to answer for our actions someday. I also know competitive shooters still use long barrels, and the real tack driver rifles always still seem to have long barrels. It is not 100% stock. Thats war. Youll also need to go get at least two magazines, and at the time this published, AICS mags were running $80/per. Federal Gold Metal shoots 5-shot 0.6 MOA groups all day long. At a certain point, .308 is .308 and bullet weight doesnt matter. When will the madness end? Running the 6.5 and the .308 back-to-back, you can immediately feel the difference in barrel length. COPYRIGHT 2021, THETRUTHABOUTGUNS.COM. $1,039.00 $989.99. Im hoping these will be decent.. My original goal was to try to use this for 1000 yd. MAG291-BLK JWR is a journalist, technical writer, and novelist. I have a RPR in 308 Win and its accuracy amazes me everytime I shoot it. Item Number: 6803. Im now seeing them priced closer to $700, and even if you find a screaming deal, you still need to get it to your door. It all about taking the time to do some quite deliberate tests. I already have a great 155 grain load for my AR. And if you get serious about competing in precision rifle, only to find that the accuracy of the factory chrome-moly steel barrel isnt up to your standards, several shops are already cutting and installing premium barrel blanks to fit this gun. Or the author may have gotten a bad example. Hornady Match ammo. In a 10lb 308? Its ballistic coefficient isnt as good as 6.5, so it is more affected by wind. If you drop them at several hundred yards away, you may face murder charges at some point, when law and order are restored assuming it ever gets restored. Guess Im just older than most and have an appreciation for the past. If youre willing to wait. An RPR in 6.5 Creedmoor (review here) and one in .308 WIN . so check Salt N Pepa Jacket which is a most selling outfit in our store, Shop now and get amazing discounts and offers. Price for a RPR in .308 at Sportsmans Warehouse 1 week ago was $999.00 plus tax and they had 2 of them in stock in their Silverdale, WA store that day. The 6.555 is the smarter choice in a sufficient environment, yet the popular 6.5 Creedmoor is well supported making, it easy for folks to get into the long range game. The 6.5 got a well-deserved five stars. And, Ive heard this asked many, many times do you have any sniper rifles? and when that question is asked of me, Ill point to all the long guns on the racks. As far as the loose safety lever, Swap it for an ambidextrous from CMMG and its not an issue any more. Surprised I didnt get any flyers. Not as bad as shooting 3 1/2 goose loads out of a lightweight 12 gauge, but still noticeable. The RPR is built of similar parts with a much higher degree of final finish. The best was copper creek 142 and winchester 140 match. Promise! Its just a matter of wearing down the bumps and filling in the pits with copper. That requires 5.56/223 or .308 anyway. Then add a Limb Saver, or a sand bag. Ive only to put on my slippers and step out my shop door on select days to harvest my elk(<115yrds so there'll be no humping it. I'm hoping for the best with this new RPR. Hodgden lists a load of 46.3 grains of IMR4831 at 2,700 fps at a pressure of 45,400 cup out of a 24 barrel, the length of a Swedish M38 barrel. As I said, stay tuned; Im working on it. to ask. The first thing I do is to remove the factory supplied muzzle breaks and install an A2 type flash hider.not nearly the muzzle blast. So if you get one thats a mediocre shooter, you can go to a premium barrel for several hundred dollars instead of the $1,000-$1,500 it might cost to rebarrel a 700 (Im including blueprinting). The 6.5 creedmoor were factory rounds. Was hoping to hear good things about this rifle as it has so many features I like, but it looks as though a heavy barreled Savage or Weatherby will out shine what is otherwise an impressive rifle. Vortex Viper HST 6-24x50mm Riflescope is the best Best Scope for 308 Ruger Precision Rifle, it is not only accurate at extended ranges but also the best recommendation for long-range hunting and tactical operations such as shooting on tree stands and mountain tops. It is just not in me, these days. The blue box stuff, probably 25 years old. I did notice upon cleaning the 6.5 and the .308 back to back that the .308 seemed to have quite a bit more carbon and copper fouling after a fairly similar round count. Thank you! Something is wrong. gun. WBT offers California & other state compliant rifles from any brand you want. WebRuger Precision Rifle .308 Win Gen.3 - Jetzt mitbieten bzw. $588.49. Barrel features a Ruger Precision Rifle Hybrid Muzzle Brake to effectively reduce recoil while minimizing noise and blast to the sides of the shooter. Longer barrels arent so much inherently more or less accurate than long barrels, but the reduction in sight radius is a for-real issue when youre using iron sights. Most sniping takes place at well under 500-yards. Gun Reviews | Gun Review: Ruger Precision Rifle in .308 Win - The T It also seemed that several guys had bad bores, and some noted that they had .5 MOA cold, but broke down as barrel heated (and some posters were able to get consistent .5 MOA from the get-go). Sigh. Couldnt close the bolt all the way so I couldnt fold stock and remove bolt to trouble shoot it. It took me some time to get the adjustable stock set just the way I wanted it this is a new type of stock to me, and it took some time to get it adjusted perfectly Id fire several shots, and check where the rounds were going, and make adjustments, and shoot again. I could live with either round, for doing some log range hunting or counter-sniping. Ive got just under 3,000 rounds through it and am paying close attention to groups for any signs of throat erosion. The Daily Web Log for Prepared Individuals Living in Uncertain Times. If I had to grab one of these and run though, I think Id still go for my late 70s Ruger M77 in 7mm Mag. This was magnified by the very rigid and not very soft A2 buttstock I slapped on for a lot of the testing that I did. An aircraft strobe isnt that bright. Also, I think I read vs dreamed that these guns use AR bbls and bbl nuts/bbl extsn to mount the bbls. I wish this Ruger would have recd a better review. I found the RPR stayed in the gun safe, while the Magpul Hunter actually gets put to use. l I know most people around here are not fans of dead tree rags but I dont think they lied about the results. Thats easily accomplished with a high-powered rifle, with a decent scope that is properly on it. For example the newer 6.5mm 150 grain Serria BTHP can be run out a .260 Remingtion at 2,697 fps. Otherwise the old 6.555 is ballistically identical to the Creedmoor. More importantly, 6.5 long-range rifle is hands down an easier bullet to shoot in the wind. However Im not giving up yet. A Savage 10TR (may be only a Canadian offereing) These come from the factory with a threaded, heavy barrel in either 20 or 24. Ill stick around and read more reviews. The good news is that the Ruger Precision Rifle only retails for $1,500. My usual shooting spot already has over 30 of snow and it isnt yet Thanksgiving. Oh, BTW, my first time reading TTAG, I like it. I am not personally familiar with the 308s as far as what they are capable of, but Ive never heard of anyone unable to get them to shoot easily under 1 MOA average with around .5 bests. I would love to see that ar 10 get that kind of accuracy I would never believe it I would have to see it Be there you know what I mean! Theres plenty of cheap ammo out there thats accurate enough to brush up your skills to the point where you could use match ammo in .308, not so much in 6.5 Creedmore. Extended trigger-reach AR-style grip and 45 reversible safety selector. Not sure where you are getting your factory ammo if its the same price at 6.5. Bummer. If the rifle doesnt perform its intended job, that is a legitimate criticism. I am getting my Viper HS-T properly mounted this week and will hit it again this weekend. God speed and happy shooting SIr. Capacity10 Height7.30" Overall Length39.25"-42.75" Length of Pull12" - 15.50" Folded A-MAX through the RPR for groups and managed to put down a 1.754 MOA and 1.737 MOA group respectively. Notify Me When Available. The AR-10 is also a much heavier rifle and ammo package. Ive done more OCW tests than I can recall and never came close to 1MOA consistently. I am fully stocked and geared for 308 and was hoping to expand my horizons with the RPR in 6.5 Creedmor. Ill take one in 308 and put the money I save toward a suppressor. Keep in mind, though, that the 6.5 easily kept it around the 1 MOA mark at the same distance. Even with a worn throat, it will do sub MOA. We live in a land of plenty. Adding a good scope, for instance, can increase a rifles effective range. Moyie Springs, Idaho 83845. In the meantime, I decided to get another gun in case this one doesnt work out. Flatter shooting 123 grain Amax, and the SST has more than enough ballistic coefficient (.510), and the same ballistic coefficient, so they are interchangeable. I ran the 6.5 really hard during my testing. My SR762 is surprisingly a bit more accurate than this rifle with 168 grain match ammo. But I still did very well, all things considered. Surely not! Submitted an very long and very boring article very early this morning about the virtues of the of the Old Ought Six, .30-06 vs. the 6.5 Creedmoor. Maximum effective range is 1000 yards. with zero on the paper! It could have easily been the opposite with the .308 the more accurate one. And this is the rub as it relates to this RPR. The 129 gr. Damn kids. Its more suited for what I want to do. The only down-side is those 4 round Savage magazines. These new ELD bullets have MUCH better physical characteristics than the 168 gr. Notify Me When Available. Trigger: Ruger Marksman Adjustable trigger, pull weight of 2.25 to 5 pounds; bolt disassembly tool is stored in the bolt shroud. The next email was to the rest of the crew at TTAG to say, Back off! Id rather be kicked, than deafened! My Rock River LAR-8 shoots the same bullet .75 MOA. The 168-gr Match Hollow Point load was giving me 3-shot groups close to 3/4-inches and I had to check several times, to make sure all three rounds were hitting the target they were that close often just one ragged hole. That is impressive. WebRuger Marksman Adjustable trigger is externally adjustable with a pull weight range of 2.25 to 5.0 lbs. WebKaliber: .308 WinPipa: 50,8 cm, kallhamrad, twist 1:10Totallngd: Stllbar frn 99,7 cm till 108,6 cmMaterial:Kolv: Syntetstock, svartFinish: Blnerad, "Satin B Survival AR-7 Rifle, Gun Review: Blaser R8 Ultimate Carbon Hunting Rifle, http://www.scout.com/military/snipers-hide/story/1616372-sniper-s-hide-complete-ruger-upgrade-review, Capacity: 10 rounds (20- and 25-round PMags are available in the market), Stock: Folding stock, Adjustable Length of Pull and Comb Height. - Here, Im almost to a point of demanding you turn in your Man Card. Those hunting handloads are easily moa out of my R-25 and also out of a 16 custom barreled rifle I recently built. But they shouldnt be too disappointed in their results, if the thing will only shoot 1.5MOA with good ammo. The base model Ruger Precision Rifle, in .308 Winchester, is 42.75 inches long with its stock extended, three inches wide, and 7.3 inches high. Match ammo might be competitively priced in the Creedmore but if someone new is getting into long range shooting theyd be better served with .308. The weights vary by chambering, but with the lightest model starting at 9.7 lbs. So plan on spending a minimum of $1,400 and probably closer to $1,800 when the dust settles to get your hunting gun on the level of functionality that the RPR brings to the table straight out of the box. One more thing, we were all putting rounds on center of mass at the 600 yard range with those open sights. I have become a big fan of nitrided barrels from Criterion, a spinoff of Krieger. So within a day of each other, my FFL handed over two identical boxes with two nearly identical guns. Overall Length: 39.25"-42.75". He is also a retreat consultant specializing in off-grid living, rural relocation, and survival preparedness. I dont know why this one isnt a lights-out shooter like the 6.5. Good rant. Oh, and theres accuracy, but more on that later. I would buy another 6.5 just to have. Another thing that I feel the need to point out, is that Sniper Rifle is another made up term by the anti-gun establishment, just like Assault Weapon. Uh, the Czech ammo hit the plate over and over again using the same come-up data. With the 6.5 CM you should expect no worse than .65-.75 MOA at any range up to 500 yards with minimal wind gusts. Well, its not my rifle, but I sure as heck dont treat new barrels like that. Ive owned more than a few bolt-action hunting rifles, in various calibers, that could keep my three round groups right at an inch at 100 yards. But in that same string of testing, I shot a 1.698 MOA group. PMAGs of course are cheaper, but the only chassis system that will take those is Magpuls new Hunter line. Few people are going to compete in F target class with a deer rifle. The fact that they also will feed from the same magazine is a major bonus. One gentleman suggested that a simple recrowning might fix some of the issues I saw, and frankly, its possible that a good cleaning would help. Check the web majority of those who compare it to the Savage prefer it to ruger, and its 20% cheaper. Lets take a Rem 700 AAC-SD like the one that Nick tested awhile back. Length of Pull: 12" - 15.50". It is plenty for those ranges, and it will be flatter as a result. But the big deal with .260 Remington is that is uses necked down .308 cases. Im old school like yourself. My 06 works just fine. Ruger used a 15-inch handguard on the 6.5 and a 12.37 inch on the .308, so the difference is only 2.63 inches. Id guess that theres a small advantage to a long barrel in consistent velocities, but only if the girth is thickened to retain the same degree of rigidity. At 100 yards, no. Up until very recently the sniper rifle was just a re-worked Remington 700. It may not be a precision rifle for 1000 meters, but with the right loads, it be good enough and save you lots of money and hit almost twice as hard as the Creedmoor at extended ranges. (Speaking of maneuverability, the RPRs magazine-well front is contoured for a positive grip for bracing against shooting supports.). I am indeed a gun nut, that was disguised as a radio nut, who, to poor to buy another gun, bot radios instead. All mags worked fine. Ruger has been producing some outstanding bolt-action hunting rifles for as long as I can remember and Im old, real old so I can remember a long time back. One thing I noticed is that this rifle is slow. BTW, Mr. Tubb shoots better off-hand than most people shoot off a bench, and he has the awards to show for it.
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