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Pat was 20 on the hot evening of Wednesday, July 13, 1966, when Arlene Kubasek dropped her off at the townhouse, well before curfew, which was 10:30 p.m. except for the two nights a week the women were allowed to stay out until 12:30 a.m. Do you want to come in for coffee? "She did well with other people in situations that you're not necessarily in control of," Farris said, "which I think is a good skill for nursing.". I want you to look at her eyes.". Speck's father, to whom he had been deeply attached . Next door was a funeral home, run by Arlene Baskys' dad. (Chris Walker/Chicago Tribune). "She wasn't the prom queen or the valedictorian," her brother recalled. Cook County Assistant States Attorney William Martin, left, watches as witness Corazon Amurao uses a scale model of the townhouse crime scene to detail the murder of eight nurses by Richard Speck, center background, during Specks 1966 trial in Peoria, Ill. (R.K. Davidson). he said. Not violent? "This is the man," she said as pandemonium erupted. Before long, she, Merlita and Cora were huddled in a small bedroom closet, holding the door shut. Gloria Davy jokes around in the South Side townhouse that was used as a dormitory for student nurses from South Chicago Community Hospital, circa 1966. Mary Ann Jordanin her nursing uniform in an undated photo. For years, whenever July 14 comes around, John Farris has found himself depressed for a week before and after. Would Kubasek help? When John Schmale talks about what happened that night, he uses the words "anger," "rage," "mourning.". "A lot of us never locked our doors but the Speck case changed all that.". The townhouse Gloria shared with the other student nurses was often a mess, so she sometimes paid her little sister a dollar or two to clean. At South Chicago Community Hospital she earned $350 a month, much of which she sent back to the Philippines, and, like the other exchange nurses, she wrote a lot of letters. I wanted to get rid of it. (Chris Walker / Chicago Tribune) (Chicago Tribune). They`re violent players. Not only had they been allowed a slumber party with their mother, but their big sister who was about to graduate from nursing school was coming home for good the next day. I watched `Magnum Force` the other night. It was the early 1960s, before the flowering of the women's liberation movement, an era when it wasn't assumed that women would leave the house to work, and those who did had few choices. The police arrived to scenes of carnage, and took Amurao into custody, interviewing her and proceeding with the construction of an Identikit image. Dorothy Schmale died five years after her daughter did, her death hastened by heartbreak. The Farris family lived in a quiet, tree-lined Far South Side neighborhood called Fair Elms. A funeral parlor jammed with mourners. Their father, John, had attended seminary, changed his mind about the priesthood and married a young woman, Mary, who had grown up three blocks from him. "She was great with him," recalled their sister, Susan Jordan Morin. It is being republished for the anniversary with updated sections, including one about Atienza. The last time John Farris saw Suzie, 21, he had just come home from a track meet, carrying his victory medals, and she was visiting with her boyfriend, Phil. He spent the rest of his life in prison until he died of a heart attack in 1991 at age 49. ''Here,'' he said. (Schmale family ). After it was aired on TV, Wilkening obtained a copy of the video. He had never met the women he was about to kill. Mary Ann Jordan grew up hearing her father's tales of her Irish grandmother, Grace. Me, I`m not like Dillinger or anybody else. She wanted to do Pat's hair and makeup for the funeral. On April 15, after 49 minutes of deliberation, the jury found Speck guilty and recommended the death penalty. Cook County Assistant States Attorney William Martin, left, watches as witness Corazon Amurao uses a scale model of the townhouse crime scene to detail the murder of eight nurses by Richard Speck, center background, during Specks 1966 trial in Peoria, Ill. Pamela Wilkening, left, Mary Ann Jordan, right, and Suzanne Farris, second from right, are shown with other student nurses having fun with a South Chicago Community Hospital School of Nursing banner, circa 1966. It was small and nothing fancy: One bathroom and three bedrooms upstairs. She liked clothes, and since the family didn't have a lot of money, she made her own. William Martin was the lead prosecutor for Speck's trial. After Speck's trial she moved back to the Philippines and married in 1969, but she returned to the U.S. about four years later. Betty Jo had one more request. At age 10, she walked her sister Susan to her first day of kindergarten. Kubasek is 71, Baskys 68. Speck is played by Jack Erdie on "Mindhunter." Netflix/AP Speck is one of the later interviewees in "Mindhunter." He was a high-school dropout and alcoholic by age 15. She wrote her daughter's name, Nina, on a piece of pink paper. He was the man Nina planned to marry but only after graduation. Thats why he and his wife established the Nina Jo Schmale Scholarship Fund at Wheaton College; Ninas name, and hers alone, is now attached to something good. Where Is Acquitted Murderer Candy Montgomery Now? Lori would ride her bike over, do the dishes, pick up the clothes scattered around the living room. From early childhood, she connected with him in a unique way, and he was why she wanted to specialize in pediatric nursing. Speck admitted he committed the killings _ breaking for the first time his claim of drug-induced amnesia. "Time is moving on," he said one afternoon, sitting in his peaceful yard under the old, low-hanging trees. Shortly after the Filipina women arrived, the Chicago women threw them a welcome party, and over the next few weeks helped them learn their way around the city. And Carol Burnett. But she still can't stand the smell of roses. In their tightknit neighborhood, Pat and her friends stood on corners during the fall to help her dad sell peanuts for the Kiwanis Club. Despite concerns about her ability to testify after her harrowing ordeal, she gave a faultless performance, impressing the jury with every detail of that evening, identifying Speck unequivocally. Richard Roundtree? "She gets out of the car, slams the door and found out from the guy where we are and how to get home from there.". John had his own. In court, Speck was positively identified by the sole surviving student nurse, Cora Amurao. I`d never shot heroin before. Who is Corazon Amurao? For many years she worked as a nurse at Georgetown University Hospital in Washington, D.C. Now 73, she has two children and several grandchildren. So much youth and beauty, so much wit and fun. Pat was born in 1945, the year World War II ended, to Joe and Bessie Matusek, both of Czech descent. He'd turned on the TV news in Pennsylvania. He wonders what it would have been like to grow old with a sister, his sister. Richard Speck Mindhunter: Ford goes too far in interviewing Speck, trying to use inflammatory, sexist language to get the murderer to open up. Richard Speck captured the nation's attention during the summer of 1966 after murdering eight female students who lived together on Chicago's South Side. Corazon Amurao, center, the nurse who survived the massacre of eight of her fellow student nurses, walks between another nurse and William Ruddel, Bridewell jail superintendent, from Bridewell's Cermak Memorial Hospital after a second visit to the building where Richard Speck was being held on July 19, 1966. And it turned out that it reopened her life.". That was almost true; the man whose crimes introduced the term ''mass murderer'' to the American lexicon did not like to talk. Atienza was the states key witness when Martin prosecuted Speck in the 1967 trial. "She was kind of your average good kid who was really dedicated to being a caregiver.". He touched on feelings of pressure from police and investigators to help solve cases, as well as the empathy and duty he felt towards families of victims. And it turned out that it reopened her life. Nina Jo Schmale appears in an undated photo. So eight people got killed. For the past few years, Schmale, a friendly, white-haired man of 78, has searched for a way to honor exactly those aspects of his sister and her friends, a way that would emphasize not how they died but how they lived, that would focus on them more than on their killer. Richard Speck, in full Richard Benjamin Speck, (born December 6, 1941, Kirkwood, Illinois, U.S.died December 5, 1991, Joliet), American mass murderer known for killing eight female nursing students in a Chicago town house in 1966. They were the last women to arrive at the townhouse that night. He keeps the photo in a plastic pouch, tucked next to the prayer card from her funeral. There's no question that Richard Speck lived a very troubled life from an early age. Richard Speck murdered eight student nurses in one night in 1966. Come spend the night at the townhouse, Suzanne suggested to Mary Ann. Like Schmale, she talks about opening the box of her sister's life, and now that it's open she thinks, "Wow, wow, this was my sister. The kitchen is where he and Suzie shared lunch, usually made by their dad, who worked afternoons while their mother worked days. She did, however, like her volunteer job at an elder-care facility known as the poor farm, and she made friends with her patients, even brought them Christmas presents. ''You`re talking about two different categories of people,'' Speck said. Eight thousand miles from home, they could earn decent money and many, like Tina, sent much of it back to their families. Susan is 3. During one of Pam's shifts, a patient slugged her. He unearthed his ancient 35 mm slide projector, marveled that the bulb still worked and began projecting images on a wall. Stewardess. The doctor had just had a. He thinks of his sister every day. If you live your life in hatred and anger, you'll lose more than Gloria. At her father's urging, Lori considered becoming a nurse, but she finally told him that she couldn't, she was just too emotional for the job. .css-m6thd4{-webkit-text-decoration:none;text-decoration:none;display:block;margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;font-family:Gilroy,Helvetica,Arial,Sans-serif;font-size:1.125rem;line-height:1.2;font-weight:bold;color:#323232;text-transform:capitalize;}@media (any-hover: hover){.css-m6thd4:hover{color:link-hover;}}G. Gordon Liddys Wild Career After Watergate. One went into nursing. It was that door that a student nurse from a neighboring townhouse approached at 12:15 a.m. on July 14, in search of bread for a late-night sandwich. What would Nina, who died at 24, look like today, at 74? ''I burned that tattoo off with a cigarette. She went home, not knowing that a little more than an hour earlier, a drifter with a knife, a gun and a history of violence had broken in and was holding her friends hostage upstairs. Except, Speck doesn't see himself as an evil person. Nina was 19 when she announced to her family, "I'm going to nursing school.". Cora has gone on to have a life that appears normal. On that Monday, she was taken to a townhouse on East 100th Street rented by her new employer, South Chicago Community Hospital. Sitting in her Naperville home, she sobbed. He proceeded to brutalize them in the most horrific fashion over the following few hours. Jordan Morin, who was 15 when Mary Ann died, has never before spoken publicly about her sister's death, and she doesn't talk easily about it now. After that day, Arline Davy was different. Richard Benjamin Speck (December 6, 1941 - December 5, 1991) was an American mass murderer who systematically tortured, raped, and murdered eight student nurses from South Chicago Community Hospital on July 13, 1966. High school nursing club. It's a 1957 Chevrolet Bel Air convertible painted in Colonial Cream. What about the notorious ''Born to Raise Hell'' tattoo that led to his capture? Though she rarely talked to her two children about what happened, she made sure her sister Pat lived on through her daughter, to whom she gave the name Patricia Ann. Police, cameras, gawkers were everywhere, and someone said something about "the bodies.". Mary Ann is 8. In the townhouse, she was known to sing while doing the dishes or the laundry. Only recently, since John Schmale got in touch with her about a 50th anniversary commemoration for the women, has Lori let herself believe that it's OK to remember, OK to cry. Finding no one there, he marched them back upstairs. . Although she declined to be interviewed for this story, she has exchanged emails recently with John Schmale. Merlita Gargullo, left, one of eight nurses slain by Richard Speck, gets a goodbye kiss from her aunt, Ancia Anyayahan, as she left Manila for the United States. In November 1962, Speck married Shirley Malone, and they had a daughter, Bobby Lynn, soon after. Schmale was a student nurse at South Chicago Community Hospital. Would she still love water ballet? In the days before automated fingerprint identification, it took almost a week to identify the prints found in the townhouse as his. Speck laughed. Until he was six-years-old, he lived a fairly normal life in a small town in Illinois. On what occasion? The eight nurses killed by Richard Speck on July 14, 1966, in Chicago were, top from left, Gloria Davy, Suzanne Farris, Merlita Gargullo and Mary Ann Jordan. "Coming back from the past.". It was a world of hair curlers, hair spray cans, ashtrays, manual typewriters, textbooks, sheath dresses, corsages, cluttered rooms, a place where young women laughed, hugged, studied, ate, teased each other's hair. It was a close-knit community where almost no one locked their doors. "It was him," she said. Grief will always be tangled in that youthful happiness. He watched it once and hurled it into a corner. Amurao, she believes, saved her life. Nurse. He could be seen doing what appeared to be cocaine and in an interview-like discussion he answered questions about the murders of the nurses . "It was just awful," Siouchoff said. There's another kind of sealed box many of them have carried around as well. Menudo Star Says Jos Menendez Assaulted Him. They could talk about the wedding. The interview only goes south when Holden oversteps the bounds his newfound. As part of their psychiatric rotation, they dealt with mentally disturbed patients. Episode #1.9: Directed by David Fincher. He's still searching for the words to explain to his three children who his sister was, what happened to her. No answer. In the basement's dim overhead light, a big, brown cardboard box caught his eye, a box so soggy its bottom was ready to fall out. I screamed for about 20 minutes. It was all right. It may be difficult for those who weren't alive half a century ago to understand how profoundly Speck's crime shook the city, how far the ripples ran through time and space. The next time Lori heard the phone ring, it was morning. Jewelry, makeup and nail polish were forbidden on duty. Gloria Davy was the second of six siblings, born in the same hospital where she eventually studied nursing, raised not far from the townhouse where she died. She waved and waited for Pat to go inside. Suzie was lucky. Not long afterward, Arline Davy, sitting on the floor, hugging her knees to her chest, made an announcement to her daughters. In this interview, Speck confessed to the murders for the first time publicly and said he thought he would get out of prison "between now and the year 2000", at which time he hoped to run his own grocery store business. In the bedroom she shared with Cora Amurao, Merlita slept on the bottom bunk. Best Known For: In 1966, Richard Speck committed one of the most horrifying mass murders in American history when he brutalized and killed eight student nurses living on Chicago's South Side. Asked if she recognized the killer, she stepped off the stand and pointed: Since then she has rarely spoken to the media, though in a 1970 court hearing she described her fear of the night, of being alone, of a knock on a door. The first season of Mindhunter saw Ford interview a number of famous serial killers, including Edmund Kemper (Coed Killer), necrophile Jerry Brudos and mass murderer Richard Speck all of. Chicago Tribune's Mary Schmich contributed. (Chris Walker / Chicago Tribune). After Speck was arrested for burglary and assault, he fled to Chicago to seek shelter with his sister, Martha, a couple of months later. There was also Billy. Suzanne Farris, left, and Gloria Davy pose at the dinner table, circa 1966. Guarded by detectives, Corazon Amurao arrives at the courthouse in Peoria to testify as the state's chief witness against Richard Speck on April 5, 1967. She played baseball in the alley, badminton across the back fences. "Awful, awful. In one of John Schmale's slides, Nina poses wearing nothing but a white towel and her nurse's cap, holding a hypodermic needle and pretending she's about to give one of her housemates a shot. She loved swimming, ice skating and softball. There were nine women staying at the townhouse and one by one, Speck tortured and killed the student nurses. He committed several violent crimes against his family as a teenager and young man before he became a mass murderer at the age of 25. Why should you be surprised?". I was gonna get that tattoo removed. ''Some of them women`s gotta be nuts. Why were they here, and her sister wasn't? Books, documentaries, countless news stories, a 2007 film called "Chicago Massacre: Richard Speck" were dedicated to the so-called crime of the century. We kind of lost her, Lori said. Amurao had arrived the previous day to identify the killer in person, but Speck was not well enough. Merlita was considered quiet, shy, hardworking, efficient, pretty and blessed with a rich singing voice. Many people are unaware of the case, which was the first random mass murder of the 20th century. ''. It was the kind of childhood that half a century later people look back on and call simpler, innocent, a time when city kids were raised to be independent and unafraid. On Aug. 7, 1966, when Lori Davy, 11, walked across the stage to accept her sister's diploma, her father's orders were fresh in her mind. Growing up, Nina pronounced "Nigh-nah" was a good student, well-liked, quiet but with a sense of humor. These days, Farris is retired from his job as an administrative services manager at the Metropolitan Water Reclamation District of Chicago. So do their lives. Her roommates and friends were killed by Speck on July 14, 1966, after he broke in armed with a gun and a knife. Washed clothes in the bathroom sink, hung them to dry in the basement. Its why he wants a 50th anniversary commemoration that reclaims all the womens names, all their lives. News item: Another Speck parole hearing at Stateville Correctional Center. The image suggests who she was, serious and slightly removed from the fun. In winter they went sledding. "I just would have liked her to see the kids," he said, and he cried. The police didn't rush them, but they left as fast as they could. Videos by Chicago Tribune's Chris Walker. What he did, however, is known, because Cora, a 4-foot-10 nurse from the land of the concealed knife, escaped his sight at one point and hid under one bed, then another, until he was gone. She displayed uncommon ease with the dying and never balked at the mess that came with tending to the human body. Just below, in smaller type, was the news that six policemen had been shot during riots on the West Side. "I'm in," said Gloria, who phoned her mother every night to say she was back and safe. Theyre smiling and wearing regular clothes. Gloria's brother and three of her sisters are still alive. A. I screamed there for about five minutes and nothing. "I really don't know how to break the news of Tina's death to our parents," one of her sisters sobbed when word reached the Philippines. Losing his parking spot as he carted all that food here and there. ''I know it keeps up their morale. Many fans can agree that the interview with Richard Speck was high in terms of tension. All of the bedrooms were upstairs, and none had a phone. Jack Wilkening, brother of Pamela Wilkening, remembers his sister and the days surrounding her 1966 murder along with seven other student nurses and nurseson Chicago'sSouth Side. Then one day last fall, she found a voicemail from John Schmale. Atienza visits the Philippines every three years to see relatives. Another time, according to a different news account, Tina wrote her sister saying she wished she could live in Chicago forever. In the spring of 1966, she stepped into an airplane bound for Chicago. Pam had been quiet, studious and decisive since she was a girl in south suburban Lansing. In 1996, five years after Speck's death, a TV journalist made public a prison video, which showed Speck taking drugs and engaging in sex with another inmate during the 1980s, while he was an inmate at Statesville Correctional Institute; Speck appears to have breasts in the video, apparently as a result of hormone treatment received while in prison, and is wearing women's underwear. But life wasn't all play. Years later, when Nina moved into the townhouse where she died, she installed an old "Schmale Rd" street sign in her bedroom. Tina, as her family called her, had graduated the year before among the top 10 nursing students in her class at Manila Central University. (Schmale family ). Jack Wilkening is 79 now, retired from his job as a Standard Oil cashier. (Schmale family). Everywhere she looked she saw starched white uniforms, starched white caps, the meticulously dressed 1966 graduating class of South Chicago Community Hospital School of Nursing. Two officials at the Consulate General of the Philippines in Chicago, when asked recently about the Filipina nurses, weren't familiar with the crime. (Schmale family ). Pamela Wilkening, left, Mary Ann Jordan, right, and Suzanne Farris, second from right, are shown with other student nurses having fun with a South Chicago Community Hospital School of Nursing banner, circa 1966. Whatever confluence of forces saved her, Cora Amurao made it through the night alive. Subscribe. Her mother, Bessie, passed away in 2005. So did the fact that her brother, John, who was four years older, was studying to be a doctor. Being in the world of the older girls felt cool. By July of 1966, however, Mary Ann, 20, had moved out of the townhouse and back into the family bungalow. She was not the same person.

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richard speck interview