Afterward, you can set to ON the PTO switch. There will be instances when the abovementioned steps seem to fail in removing the PTO from the tractor. If you do the abovementioned steps correctly, you will not experience excessive vibrations after the PTO shaft engages. So, I ended up sliding the drive shaft apart to allow removal of the mower deck. When I removed the mid mower to use an implement off the rear, it was extremely difficult to release and pull off the mid pto drive shaft. When shifted the other way, it should be connected to the PTO driveshaft, clutch, and turn much harder. Thanks for the update. I would use two of the new style seals as they are thinner. If you found yourself caught up in this mechanism, escape would be unlikely. In this way, you can ease it out of its engagement. Try what Cat Guy suggest! I remembered I bought a longer bolt than the original to pull against. tractor by chaining the PTO coupler then driving the tractor forward to create Check your warranty to see if this safety concern is covered. (and that of your tractor). I used the original bolt to bolt the gear back on. Thanks!! Be sure thats not disconnected or bent either. Tip When Kubota PTO Will Not Engage: When you see the PTO indicator light illuminated, understand that the light represents the linkage. But the ones with separate PTO switch and selector lever are engineered for reducing the number of accidental engagements. Tractors with power take-off (PTO) driveshafts pull all types of PTO shaft-driven implements. Depress this button or pin with your thumb. Kameryn also enjoys hunting, fishing, cooking, Texas BBQ, and riding his motorcycle across the country. The drive shaft actually comes apart. I think autozone still rented them . }, Be aware and look closely at the amount you can cut down without messing up the integrity of the safety sleeve..otherwise don't alter it. It will probably need to come out in pieces. I have a new B7500 with a mid mount mower. Wipe your forehead with your sleeve, yell at the dog, promise a kick in the pills to the unfortunate inventor of this contraption then go get a drink of water. For example, a 50:50 mixture of ATF and diesel You should feel a pin sticking out --- press the pin in while pulling on the shaft at the same time. When shifted the other way, it should be connected to the PTO driveshaft, clutch, and turn much harder. Ensure the motor isn't running before climbing out of the vehicle by listening and looking at your oil pressure gauge. Had a parts manager and young mechanic I talked with yesterday no luck. wiggle free. The pully seal was similar difficulty. The male driveshaft on the tractor has splines that mate with the female driveshaft on the implement. It will likely come off hard most of the way. What to do, oh my, what shall we do (with a drunken sailor)? The other is for a PTO shifter. Keep in mind that an entire teardown would be in the cards. Likewise, only extreme measures work for circumstances like where splines are twisted/worn. It may not display this or other websites correctly. In this way, you can ease it out of its engagement. When you raise the mower the shaft gets in a bind and jams the release pin into the tractor's shaft. I think autozone still rented them . You must pull this gear straight down the axis to shaft if not you grab and Gaul shaft ,. I remembered I bought a longer bolt than the original to pull against. Yes I know the shaft seal will be a bear to get out even chopped into pieces. I wrapped a chain around it and got it to come off. apart again. . good quality grinderto cut it until it splits apart, longitudinally. To check things out yourself, examine the hand lever for the clutch. A fun fact about Alyssa is that she graduated high school a year early. Spent part of the day dealing with a different dealership and service manager getting a kind of maybe sort of idea about splitting the tractor or going in thru the top underneath the seat. With easy online ordering and same day shipping. Ed is one of our Technicians at Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment. But when using more force, you should take extra precautions to avoid destroying the components of the shaft, including its bearings and other parts. When the flow and pressure rise high enough, you experience the shut-off. You'll see a safety shroud covering this area. You must pull this gear straight down the axis to shaft if not you grab and Gaul shaft ,. Put a strap around the arm of puller so they dont slip off the gear. Should I heat the whole housing up? I would use two of the new style seals as they are thinner. The old style seal is very large and thick. It will likely come off hard most of the way. Morgan is our Office Manager. Do I take the gear off so the shaft comes out the front? All I wanted to accomplish was to replace a leaking shaft seal. Another way you can check to be sure it is the clutch pack (because it could be the drive chain jumped off), raise and block up the tiller so it cannot fall, shut tractor completely off and . Dont get it red hot ,just heat . The old style seal is very large and thick. They may well be smarter though resulting in less work. Dave I have a question about the seal bore. If the RPMs are changing the engagement, it could be a weak seal. Remove And Replace PTO Seal Part 2 Kubota-2350DT-clutch-replacement-3 how to remove front axle Kubota B6001 Fixing a Twisted PTO Shaft How to Measure and Cut a Tractor PTO Shaft. Note: Soaking The idea is to drive whatever locking mechanism He holds a Business Degree from St. Edwards University, and his interests include fishing, golfing, and playing video games. The three speed pto and power steering have made it more difficult. Remove four bolts and pull out. What's happ. Copyright 2023 Leaf Group Ltd. / Leaf Group Media, All Rights Reserved. Its all internal, and it consists of a clutch pack that is certainly replaceable. "@type": "InteractionCounter", Great ideas, appreciate them all. I used that pilot hole to center my 3 jaw puller. its important to make a sensible decision before embracing any. Though the turning is not forceful, it is sometimes enough to turn the attachment (whether a post hole digger or winch). Spray the shaft with plenty of lubricating oil to ease it up, With tractor shut off, reach in under the PTO guard and grab the end of the shaft that slides onto the PTO splines. You need to rotate gear so they line and then pull the gear carefully off the shaft. steady pulling tension (the chain is typically fixed to an immovable object). Finally, if it went on it will also come off but may require a language challenge. Kubota Tractor PTO Problems Tip: This problem occurs when a bush hog, for instance, is shut off when the power is cut from the PTO. The drive shaft actually comes apart. Brynna is our Office Manager. No go. *The implement should be turned off at idle speed only.*. Not exactly what youre looking for? The seal I ruined with the too long pto shaft is apparently supposed to be driven over the pto from the outside. Sat: 8:00 a.m. 4:00 p.m. Sun: Closed, Mon Fri: 7:30 a.m. 5:30 p.m. Always consult equipment operator's manual and follow safety instructions before operating or servicing any tractor or equipment, or attempting any task. Glad you got it back together. I drilled a pilot hole(counter sink) in the center of the new bolt. Then read over these commonly asked questions regarding how to engage a PTO on Kubota tractors when issues arise. You can use a mixture of diesel and ATF with a 50:50 ratio. The manual makes it sound rather easy. Replace it if it is already in poor condition. Get it fixed as soon as you can. Keep at it. Garrett is one of our Sales Representatives and has been with Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment for five years. Then the pto shaft comes out the back. Moreover, tractors with PTO driveshafts can pull any type of PTO-driven equipment. The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. It is just a tin frame unlike the heavy shafts and castings. Further, safety is an issue. }, That way I could bottom out the bolt before it got against the gear. Stay tuned for episode 3 coming up later. Lubes can be particularly effective for stuck tractor PTO If you continue, youll risk damaging the PTO driveshaft or If that doesn't work, try an easy out in a slow drill press (in reverse, of course). Christian is one of our Parts Counter Personnel and a Certified Kubota Parts Pro. Removed front loader to drop front wheel drive shaft. Schedule the oiling and greasing of your implements and the PTO shaft to keep its universal joints in top-notch condition. When shifted one way, it should be free, turning very easily. Good thing for the FEL, what a helper in getting the front drive shaft/tires out of the way. No go. My pto shaft was shot also. Some models have dual-speed, and some have single-speed with a neutral position. In such a case, you may try some of the following tricks and tips to disengage the PTO from the tractor: If the PTO shaft seems to be adamantly engaged to the tractor, you can force the issue and use a hammer to ease out the PTO shaft from the tractor. KUBOTA front PTO removal! Roger is one of our Technicians and has 20+ years of equipment experience. This is not that complicated to do; so, you will get by with this problem if you are used to tinkering. If attempted, severe injury or death may occur. In some situations, just gentle hammering will get the stuck Kameryn is one of our Sales Representatives and also a certified MIG and stick welder. It is just a tin frame unlike the heavy shafts and castings. Stay tuned for episode 3 coming up later. Probably the key is partly sheared inside. When I get that gear off and finally get the shaft out so I can get at the seal I think I'll use a speedi-sleeve with 2 new style SKF seals. I suggest you heat the gear so it will release from shaft and pull easy. I remembered I bought a longer bolt than the original to pull against. Also make sure the keyways and shaft keyway are still line up ,this very critical to the gear coming off shaft . into the open space. I'm onto phase 3 with this challenge. Other tractors (depending on serial number) use a washer and a roll pin. Welcome. You need to remove a PTO shaft to disconnect an implement from the tractor. The seal sits inside that. Which way does the PTO shaft come out, front or backwards. You must log in or register to reply here. The PTO shaft provides the implement with mechanical operating power. The engagement inside the rear gearbox is not actually being sensed. Success said he'd be coming by over the weekend. The onset of rust will indeed happen, especially if the PTO shafts are exposed to moisture, and you dont run the PTO shafts with grease for a long time. I suggest you heat the gear so it will release from shaft and pull easy. It will probably need to come out in pieces. even though its the most dependable solution if your shaft is slightly deformed. The odds are that youll be successful. Do I take the gear off so the shaft comes out the front? It is just a tin frame unlike the heavy shafts and castings. - YouTube 0:00 / 11:38 KUBOTA front PTO removal! "headline":"Farmall C PTO shaft seal part 2", However, its brake is still engaged. Then the entire white thing in picture 3 rotates CCW. I drafted the my suggestion to your photo . That s what I did, found a couple for $6 each. TRADEMARK DISCLAIMER: Tradenames and Trademarks referred to within Yesterday's Tractor Co. products and within the Yesterday's Tractor Co. websites are the property of their respective trademark holders. On the other hand, when the flow and pressure decrease, its engaging again. I can only imagine the bill at a dealership. He attended Kilgore College and SW Texas University, served in the U.S. Army, and currently holds a Kubota Master Technician certification. There is a snap ring shown on the parts diagram, but it is shown holding a bearing in place that should come out with the rear flange. Ensure that you turn off the tractors engine before you even dare remove the PTO shaft from it. You may need to turn to a mechanic with Kubota expertise. What to do, oh my, what shall we do (with a drunken sailor)? An easy pressure test on the control valve would reveal if this is the underlying issue or not. Hes a Wyotech Graduate, U.S. Army Veteran, and currently holds a Kubota Master Technician certification. The seal sits inside that. 3. Grease the splines on the tractor's driveshaft spindle to make installation and removal of the PTO shaft easier. day or two. If floating is the problem, then the brake will be damaged, and it will never stop the way its intended to. I think the metal piece you are referring to on the outside is the housing for the seal and doesn't come off. Dave I would suggest heavy duty 3 jaw puller located into the three holes of the gear. I would have just heated the seal. If you have to, remove the remaining part if it is stuck to the tractor, by soaking with penetrating oil, and or, pulling it off with the same method as above, or by cutting a slot, in the female coupling with an exhaust cutter, and then pulling. In picture 1 on the left, the white tab folds down as shown in. Frankly before I would have taken all that apart. You will notice that the independent PTO is easier to engage than the transmission PTO. is used out (typically balls or pins) or cause it/them to disconnect. 6' finish mower, 5' bush hog, 2 bottom plow, 6' rear blade, boom pole. Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment is here to serve you. Also, if the PTO clutch and gearbox are engaged, and the PTO still does not turn, then your problem is likely extensive. He holds an Associate of Applied Science from Brazosport College. Wear all recommended safety gear before doing all "height": 57 If that key is sheared it will not allow the gear to come off shaft. You might call another Kubota shop. Welcome! Then, dismantle the PTO shield. Still wont budge. So, if you want to disconnect the PTO tractor from the implement, you should disengage the PTO shaft. That gear is really and truly 'on there'and doesn't want to come off in a conventional way. Camarillo, California Nov 6, 2009 #2 With tractor shut off, reach in under the PTO guard and grab the end of the shaft that slides onto the PTO splines. Knock the pins out to have more working room. However, just like any mechanical equipment, the PTO shaft may also get stuck to the tractor and may be difficult to disengage, especially if it has been sitting there for a long time. its components, which could create loads of mechanical problems. Contact us online today or call us at 281-516-5709 for a quote. That gear is really and truly 'on there'and doesn't want to come off in a conventional way. When I get that gear off and finally get the shaft out so I can get at the seal I think I'll use a speedi-sleeve with 2 new style SKF seals. Afterward, you should flip to theONposition the PTO switch. "@type": "Organization", Be sure you understand that the pto yoke can slide forward and backward along the pto shaft of the tractor- as long as the pin is pushed in (the correct amount). Shaft comes out towards rear of the tractor, Okay! The abovementioned methods on disengaging the PTO shaft will only work well if the PTO shaft is still not broken or cracked. ", It might also be a bad clutch pack brake disc, which would not stop the clutch. Case, Case-IH, Farmall, International Harvester, New Holland and their logos are registered trademarks of CNH Global N.V. Then work on disconnecting it. Which way does the PTO shaft come out, front or backwards? It isn't that old that their mechanics can't figure it out or tell you how to do it. My next effort will be to heat it with my TIG torch, see if red hot does the trick. I had the same problem puting the deck back on. If the shaft wont yet be persuaded to get out even after She attended the University of Central Oklahoma and worked as a pumper in the oilfield in Oklahoma for nine years. Place the vehicle's transmission gear in park. Wondering if your driveline is too long. ", Lastly, ensure that you check the PTO safety guards for any damage. You must pull this gear straight down the axis to shaft if not you grab and Gaul shaft ,. with WD40 can also help to loosen the shaft adequately for this method. He spends most of his time volunteering and attending different events in his hometown, Bay City. My pto shaft was shot also. Is it straight to where it could be removed over the spline if desired, or is it pressed up against a step, requiring it to be pressed inwards towards the tractor for removal? Pry Bar method to remove PTO shaft stuck on tractor Another method that helps when PTO shaft wont slide is dismantling the assembly. Please use the navigational links to explore our website. The sleeve bearing on this shaft is also split for removal but it seems so stiff, I'm . You have to pull the gear on the inside and the shaft will slide out. Thanks, that makes sense. there. The problem could be surfacing because of several things. When I say rearword I mean the shaft come out towards the back of the tractor. The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. works well if properly mixed. Looks like the seal could come out frontwards but I have no way to grab it or push it out. Thanks. Called dealer who sold me the seals but this tractor was to old for any of their people to have worked on. To remedy such a problem of a PTO shaft getting stuck onto the tractor due to rust, you should lubricate the shaft with enough lubricating oil. "name": "Smarten_up" I have removed four bolts on the back of tractor that covers the Pto shaft. qualities if you go this route. This is a difficult job! When I say rearword I mean the shaft come out towards the back of the tractor. Let the lube sits there for a while. Add to Wishlist ; Add to Compare . Kubota / Yanmar; TRACTOR MANUALS Allis Chalmers: Case: Farmall IH: Ford 8N,9N,2N: Ford Ferguson: . Look where the PTO shaft of the implement connects to the PTO spindle on the tractor. That way I could bottom out the bolt before it got against the gear. Add to Cart. Be prepared to apply and then reapply over a Brakes Making Noise When Stopping: Causes and Solutions. If it's right it should be about flush. Here are a couple of suggestions. Locate the pin or button that keeps the shaft locked to the tractor. The combination of heat and easy hammering (after abundant On my finish mower my shaft is close to being too short (story of my life). You're all ready to do work, back the tractor up to the brush hog, the three point lines up easilybut you can't get the darned PTO to extend. Then, try to disengage the PTO shaft again. This is a difficult job! The PTO shaft transfers this mechanical power to the implement to make it operational. Use materials with lubricating Is it straight to where it could be removed over the spline if desired, or is it pressed up against a step, requiring it to be pressed inwards towards the tractor for removal? The tin seal once heated would turn red real quick letting it be swagged with a punch while red letting it come out pretty easy with no more fooling around. You will see the PTO selector switch and lever on the operators seat right side. You do not want to end up with a damaged PTO shaft. I would have just heated the seal. Wayne is our Shop Foreman at Bobby Ford Tractor and Equipment. 66021-25080 - Belt, PTO Shaft (Set of 2) $37.20. Had friends help as well as the usual comments. I had to replace 2 on my batwing last year. The PTO shaft should slip apart. How Can You Remove the PTO Shaft from Your Tractor? L3410 GST, FEL, Bush Hog, Box Scrape, Spreader. It's going to be tuff to get that gear off but I have done it. John Deere and its logos are the registered trademarks of the John Deere Corporation. Then the entire cover slides off. Penetrating oil may take some time to show its effect on the rusting PTO shaft. You will indeed succeed in dismantling these locking mechanisms. Just a thought 2012 Kubota L3800 HST W/FEL and 1963 JD 2010 row crop utility. Point taken, except I'd have to burn out the rubber seal and the felt wiper. Has anyone removed a PTO shaft from a older Kubota? Likely, though, your PTO is all mechanical and possesses two hand levers. If that hole is perpendicular to the center of the driveshaft, then my best guess is that it is threaded and that is a hex drive set screw. More than one way to accomplish this . We may earn affiliate commissions on purchases made from links on this page. Dave Thanks, that makes sense. attempts, pour some more oil down there or shoot some grease in there. Soak the shaft in Kroil or your favorite penetrating oil. The release pin won't budge. Any advice on how to remove the PTO shaft from the housing?Looks like the someone welded a steel piece on for the seal, is this standard?Heat the hous . None of this surprises me. Both looked fine on the cutter but when I went to replace the u-joints the yokes were twisted. Dont get it red hot ,just heat . Pry Bar method to remove PTO shaft stuck on tractor, How to remove a PTO shaft from a tractor : Useful tips, How to Decrease Water Pressure in the Garden Hose, How to Make a Homemade Compost Accelerator, How to test a voltage regulator on a lawn mower, Umbrella for riding lawn mower/universal lawn tractor sunshade. Frankly before I would have taken all that apart. your tractor. Instead, you only need to switch the lever selector of the PTO out of theOFFposition. None of this surprises me. In his free time, he enjoys building guns and hunting. I think the metal piece you are referring to on the outside is the housing for the seal and doesn't come off. kubota bx2380 with brush hog,scoop,bellie mower and road grading, I have a new tractor which we have not been able to remove the brush hog from the tractor as the drive shaft keep pulling apart in the middle, You might have to shove it forward first, then pull back on the collar and pull the shaft off.
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